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 Post subject: What makes something "jumpable" or helo approved?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:53 pm 
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My rig SAR design as gotten a bit of interest when I brought it along it at a SAR convention recently and I was asked if it was suitable for long-line. Unfortunately my team doesn't do that (I wish!) so I don't know much.

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Design-wise, are there guidelines or a certification for that? I assume avoid snag hazard and having a breaking strength such that if it gets caught somewhere, it'll break off? Dummy-cording attachment points for radios/GPS?

If not, perhaps something like that for jumpable gear, if it exists, could steer me in the right direction?

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 Post subject: Re: What makes something "jumpable" or helo approved?
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JPC as an example is jumpable simply because it low profile under the harness... The ATS RAID 2 Jumpable has a lowering line which is afaik needed for packs to be approved by the US Mil...

Never seen any official guidelines, and afaik it was asked at DIY Tac.

Is there an ASTM, ISO or whatever standard for this stuff? I kinda doubt it, unless it's load bearing.

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I'm afraid this is the kind of requirement that can vary significantly from one country to another, so you would have to check with canadian entities.
Sometimes civilian rescue equipment certifications are mimicking milspec ones, sometimes they are a different beast altogether.
Maybe your best course of action would be to find a canadian manufacturer of rescue equipment (someone making harnesses, bags, ropes or other non competing items) to pick their brain on certifications.
Doing a quick search, it looks like NFPA might be your gold standard, at least on the US side. I assume you are familliar with NFPA 1983 standard? If not, you should look up point 6.5 "Auxiliary Equipment System Component" Design and construction requirements & 7.10 "Auxiliary Equipment & Components" Performance Requirements. It should already give you some hints regarding how to assemble your rig.

Also, what kind of rig is currently used for long-line? If this is generic, off the shelf stuff like blackhawk, chances are you won't need any specific norm compliancy (or you'll find what you are looking for in said product spec sheet). From there you could move your way up to the actual design requirements.

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I am indeed familiar with the NFPA family of standards, but don't know all of them by memory :P

I'll take a look at these sections of NFPA1983, I hadn't seen this one specifially.

Currently, most teams use COTS Coaxsher or Conterra platforms. Even though there might not be specific standards I have to abide by, keeping them in mind to match them as much as possible will be helpful.

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