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 Post subject: How to tell a fake Wilcox L2G05
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:46 am 
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Hey all,

I received a painted Wilcox L2G05 on an authentic Ops-core FAST High-cut, but I am suspicious it might be a replica. The reason is that there is more wobble than I would have expected.

Are there tell tail signs to look for with the real deal vs replica?


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 Post subject: Re: How to tell a fake Wilcox L2G05
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:29 am 
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only small details. post some pics it will help

anyway i have received lot of L2 very used which were moving all the time cause the hard use


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 Post subject: Re: How to tell a fake Wilcox L2G05
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:42 pm 
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If you use paint thinner to wipe away the paint you might expose some of the serial number etc? Fake L2G05s usually have the same serial numbers...


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 Post subject: Re: How to tell a fake Wilcox L2G05
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:52 pm 
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Thanks for the replies.

I'll work on getting pics up tonight.


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 Post subject: Re: How to tell a fake Wilcox L2G05
PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:04 am 
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Here are some pics. I doubt the screws are Wilcox, but they can be purchased at hardware stores.

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 Post subject: Re: How to tell a fake Wilcox L2G05
PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:57 am 
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Fakes usually have a really shitty dovetail release button that has problems actuating the internal clamp. Sometimes it's so bad you have to take the mount apart to liberate your j-arm. If it's smooth and secure - you probably have a real deal.
Also (don't quote me on this), some parts of real ones are made from titanium, while fakes are 100% aluminum.


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 Post subject: Re: How to tell a fake Wilcox L2G05
PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:07 am 
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Give the top part of the dovetail release a wipe with some thinner to expose the manufacture date...


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 Post subject: Re: How to tell a fake Wilcox L2G05
PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:55 pm 
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chesnok - I'll see if I can borrow a Wilcox dovetail j-arm to test it. How would I be able to tell the difference between aluminum and titanium? I weighed it with screws. The real ones are said to be 160g, while the fake ones show online to be 205g. This one weighed 199g. Perhaps the paint added 33g??

Paveway - I'll rub the paint off as a last effort as I'd like to preserve the paint job if I can.

At this point, I'm starting to lean that it's real. One, no one so far has noticed anything from the pics that exposes it as a fake. Two, the fakes I've seen online (FMA and Emerson) have a different "bolt" where the helmet screws attach. They are slotted on those replicas instead of just rounded like this one and the real one's I've seen. Three, this was attached to an authentic Ops-core which also came with a "jump version" Manta Strobe and an On/Off only IR V-Lite. All other gear appears authentic, so I have no real reason to doubt the authenticity of the Wilcox except that it's a very copied design and I got it all for a really good price.

BTW, I was thinking the Manta was fake because it has a smooth button instead of pimpled like the real one I already own. Also, the V-Lite was only On/Off with no strobe, whereas I'd only personally seen ones that have the strobe (blink) on the second button push. I went to the S&S website and the pic for the Manta there has the same button as this one, and the V-Lites come in an On/Off only option, which I think fakes don't come.

I tell ya, I HATE how good the replica makers have gotten!


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 Post subject: Re: How to tell a fake Wilcox L2G05
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:59 am 
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I've had several of them that were lose/shaky, but they were also very used. The only thing that throws me off on your photos is the paint job looks too good. All of the ones I have seen/had that came out of military use were very crudely painted. The one you have looks like it was airbrushed and is a little too perfect. Just my 2cents.


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 Post subject: Re: How to tell a fake Wilcox L2G05
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:52 am 
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Thanks for the input. It came off a new multicam FAST XP. The painter was definitely trying to make it blend well, which it did.

I would not say it's terribly loose, just looser than *I* would have expected. I just heard how amazing the engineering is behind Wilcox and was expecting precision. The place it's most loose is in the slide, but not terrible or noisy. There is a little play in the arm attachment, but other than that, it's pretty solid.


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 Post subject: Re: How to tell a fake Wilcox L2G05
PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:05 pm 
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The L2 design is very prone to wobble and some even break at the tilt knob level.
Cool looking but not the best wilcox's piece of engineering.

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 Post subject: Re: How to tell a fake Wilcox L2 G05
PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:23 am 
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Okay, I'm now convinced it's legit. I acquired a Wilcox J-arm to test with and it fit smooth and easy.

Thanks everyone for your time and input!


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