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 Post subject: Re: MBAV questions
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:23 pm 
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If you mean the insert, no, it does not.


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 Post subject: Re: MBAV questions
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:51 pm 
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Yes, those Velcro inserts. If not, what is that pouch used for? Just unsecure storage of magazines and such? Designed for something else? Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: MBAV questions
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:37 pm 
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I've seen them used for those universal "holsters", that attaches inside a pouch with velcro, and has bungee cord for a thumb-break.

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 Post subject: Re: MBAV questions
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:40 pm 
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I'm under the impression that most if not all the Eagle PC come standard with such kangaroo pouch, eventhough they don't seem to try to capitalize on it. I only remember seeing a pistol holster insert for one of their earlier carrier, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had produced other dedicated inserts...

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 Post subject: Re: MBAV questions
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:49 pm 
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I have seen several people personally make their own inserts for this area. It works great as an Admin Pouch when you put a zippered cover on it. Make what you want to create your own pouch.

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 Post subject: Re: MBAV questions
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:43 pm 
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Interesting! Perhaps a design that other manufacturers improved upon with accessories made to fit the new designs.

I'll just have to wait and see how I would like to use it (if at all), and come up with some way to make it work.

Anyone know of a pic of that pistol holster?


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 Post subject: Re: MBAV questions
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:48 am 
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Can't find any, but this is the general idea:
http://www.finnrappel.fi/341_Alt_1.jpg
mind you, I think this one was a built in retention system, not an insert

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 Post subject: Re: MBAV questions
PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 8:18 am 
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Ah, I do think I recall seeing that in some old DCU era pics. Thanks for digging up that example.

Ooh...I'm starting to brainstorm a kydex holster with Velcro.


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 Post subject: Re: MBAV questions
PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 2:37 am 
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High ground gear makes a two mag insert that may fit


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 Post subject: Re: MBAV questions
PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:49 am 
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Looks like the two magazine insert will definitely fit with a little room left over. I bet I could make a simple pistol mag Velcro insert for the extra space.

Thanks for pointing that out!


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 Post subject: Re: MBAV questions
PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:28 am 
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Another question. If you were wanting an MBAV, which would you prefer, the one with sewn in soft armor or without and why?


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 10:48 am 
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I would choose the one without sewn in armor, so you can store the soft armor in proper conditions when not in use, or replace it if you feel/think it might have degraded; or even upgrade if you find "better quality" soft armor (lighter, upgraded ballistic performance, etc)


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 Post subject: Re: MBAV questions
PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:32 pm 
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Ditto.
Unless you are only collecting, it's a no brainer.
I wouldn't use any second hand armor without knowing what it went through beforehand and/or having it professionnaly Inspected.

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 Post subject: Re: MBAV questions
PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:50 pm 
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That was my thinking and I actually was dumbfounded when I found that some armor carriers had the soft armor sewn in, like the Marine carriers. I was wondering if I was missing something regarding why that would even be done.


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 Post subject: Re: MBAV questions
PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 6:57 pm 
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I believe that it's because people were using the MBSS carrier (daddy of the MBAV) as a stand-alone over soft armor and SOCOM wanted a all-in-one solution (according to a PEO SOCOM rep I spoke to a few years ago during plate carrier evals, but he wasn't in the program at the time).


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