Don't know if you stated it before, but, out of curiostity, are you a German military member?
And if, whats your job there?
Yes I am, but the main use for the gear is private (globaltrotting, alpin trekking etc.).
If the gear is proven I want to use it at "work" too - yes, that´s why I plan to buy it under military conditions like fire resistant, lightweight and modular.
Regarding your clothing:
Rethink your first layer, as, even if it might be a long shot, your fire retardent/protective clothing layers are of no use, if the layer next to your skin is made of '100% Polypropylene'.
I wanted some FR Material like wool as base layer too, but many reports they use Brynje and if you wear some FR as next layer, it´s okay.
Do you know some alternative base layer (net material)?
You might want to rethink your 3rd and 4th layer too, because if you have to dry some of your layers, you will need twice the room (which can be a pain in the a** to provide in a snow shelter).
Get yourself a fitting 200g/m² (i recommend a turtleneck, as it's more comfy) and if that's not enough, get a 400g/m² for the colder days.
Na - I´m not with you!
Modular sound´s better,
and if I need to dry 2 pieces or 1 piece is as private person in the Field not a big problem, I got space enaugh and I do not need to be hidden / stealth - or what is your point?
And: 1 piece dries faster with less material, so maybe in shorter time 1 of 2 is dry again!
The carinthia (issued as Schlafsack, allgemein 2) is hot as hell ( at -10C, at least for me - I think it's supposed to be usable down to -20C but I can't remember what the lowest temperature was, I used it in) and you get a good 5 to 10 degrees lower with the issued bivy bag. Don't forget to buy a good mattress.
We speak about -40°C or more in extreme, consider that!
The point I got is: Some time ago, I got some sleepback, I think from some NL Company, bought by the EGB. It was reaaaaaly lightwight and compressed, but heavy isolating cause it uses true downen material!
Don´t know the name anymore
For socks, I use 5.11 socks for everything but winter and wollpower socks for the colder time of the year (200g/m² with activity, 400g/m² when static)
Thanks, I will check them.
As a softshell I use a otte heavy dk softshell and as goretex layer I had the Unterziehnässeschutz (a hardshell supposed to be worn under your combat fatigues, which nobody did^^).
Unterziehnässeschutz -> never got this at BW? I need to research it, but sounds interessting!
As a warming layer get a snugpack set of jacket and trousers on ebay, they are dirt cheap there, even though its winter. The real deal is the carinthia hig and mig, but you have to put some serious money on the table to get those.
I owned some Snugpak! The company "sucks"... made in Taiwan? Bought by some Swiss Company and relabelt for Snugpak ecauls in some expensive product! Tzzzzz!
The use of a tent might be unsuitable for your mission in the cold. I personally prefer a tarp and a bivy bag, because of the weight issues.
That´s exactly what I thought too
But Carinthias Products looks lightweight and functional too...
As for the new clothing line: Thats just a try to sustain gore-tex clothing longer (which will be futile, as there is no plan for the care of it regarding washing and cleaning). Its not a sound idea, because if your outer layers get wet, they get heavy and you get more easily cold.
They didn't want to build a gore-tex field-uniform, because of the cost.
And btw, it's supposed to be part of the IDZ-Es (now called Gladius) clothing line.
If you wear hydrophobic layers on the outside, like Polyamid, Aramid etc. not. You stay (relativ) dry and so you will not get cold as fast. Plus: Water can isolate you too, think about neopren. Itßs getting real warm and nice climate inside...
And no, it´s not in the Gladius Project (maybe it´s researched cause that, but it will be lunched for everyone in the BW, Name of the project is "Kampfbekleidung für Einsatz und Übung
So, maybe we talk about different things?
But, are there third party - full GoreTex Products out there, no matter what price, they just need to work.
Greetings and thanks