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 Post subject: Arcteryx LEAF 2013 line
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:31 pm 
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New items in LEAF line:

Khard 30 & 45 packs - more info here http://soldiersystems.net/2012/12/18/co ... solutions/ and here https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 336&type=1


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 Post subject: Re: Arcteryx LEAF 2013 line
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:37 pm 
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Have had one with me for T&E since october (the smaller version). Really love it except for a couple of details that will hopefuly be addressed in the final version.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:53 pm 
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Can you provide some more info about it? Maybe sme pics?


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 Post subject: Re: Arcteryx LEAF 2013 line
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:33 pm 
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No actual pic until release, that's part of the deal, sorry about that! ;)

The one I have is in Wolf, everything down to zipper pull is grey.
Interior is basically one large cargo compartment with large vertical velcro strips on all four sides. They are aimed at working in conjunction with various third party velcro backed pouches, especially BFG's dappers (one of BFG's guy actualy comes from the dead bird).
The overall size and opening style (clamshell I think it is called) will also allow to conceal any SMG or SBR (tried it with G36C).

Outisde there's one flat zippered side pocket on each side, which are just too flat for my liking (typical mountain pack design for water bladders), and one small zippered top pocket.
It is visualy basic but actually has a few really nice features.
I find it to work perfectly as a low profile urban pack.

I'm thinking about picking up the larger version when it comes out and use it as a bug out bag.

That's all I have ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Arcteryx LEAF 2013 line
PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:59 am 
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Can't wait to see how the line up of load carrying gear their going to be bringing out will look,

coming from AT it should be pretty decent to say the least!

Does anyone have any relevant info to the colours they will release them in?

would love to see a plate carrier or chest rig in Wolf


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 Post subject: Re: Arcteryx LEAF 2013 line
PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:42 pm 
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I won't say I'm 100% certain, but I think the SSD news is probably a bit deceptive.
I don't know of any load bearing project other than their backpacks.
Granted, I don't work for Arc'teryx so there's always room for surprises, but I'd say that LEAF team won't have any plate carrier or related tactical gear to show any time soon.

However, there's been a few joint projects with other manufacturer pertaining to some of their LEAF products, so I'm hopeful the good news might come from there.

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 Post subject: Re: Arcteryx LEAF 2013 line
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:05 pm 
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FWIW, SSD broke the full story:
http://soldiersystems.net/2013/01/04/ar ... hard-pack/

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 Post subject: Re: Arcteryx LEAF 2013 line
PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:55 am 
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@jack.traven: Any further thoughts on the Khard, any chance of a review? I've seen a couple knocking around in various corners of the net but nothing really in-depth.

Applied for the LEAF program earlier last week, hopefully will hear something soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Arcteryx LEAF 2013 line
PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:21 pm 
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Hey, sorry I generaly suck at reviews.

Overall, I'd say I really like the khard (30 Wolf version) as a do everything day pack, from urban areas to mountain hikes to aircraft carry on. I've carried it in various western cities without a glimpse of a second look. I decided I prefered the 30 version over the 45 as I find the later a little too big in order to maintain low profile in cities, and too easy to overpack for hiking when there's no real hip support and limited padding on the straps, but that may be just me and my sand full vagina.
Anyway, what I like most about it is the opening design, as you can basicaly access it anyway you want (side, top, front), and you can really pack quite a lot of shit inside.
I understand there's a third size coming out soon based on professional requirements, but that's all I can say.

Now my biggest grudge with this pack is not the product per se, but the way Arc'teryx marketed it. I understand it is a leap of faith, but I do believe they should have come up with a firm broad base of accessoy pockets right from the start, without relying too much on third parties. There's just so many applications for that bag which have yet to be defined, especially on the MIL/LE side, but so far we're pretty much stuck with hauling a laptop, camera and gizmos.
Interestingly enough, some cool new options may actualy come from this side of the ocean in a not too distant future...
Hope this helps!

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 Post subject: Re: Arcteryx LEAF 2013 line
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:25 am 
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No thats great bud, thanks!

I've been looking around for a pack for ages and finally came across the Khard line, which seems to tick all the boxes - a versitile mountain/military styled daysack. The price tag is steep but I am hoping to hear back about my LEAF registration any day now :) .

Size-wise, I was looking at the 45; out of interest, how much stuff could you get into the 30? I keep seeing people saying "Its a 30L but shit, you can get a lot of gear in there". Likelyhood is I'd use it as at most a 3 day pack.

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 Post subject: Re: Arcteryx LEAF 2013 line
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:04 pm 
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If you need more than 30L in a daypack then you might want to bring your campervan instead :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Arcteryx LEAF 2013 line
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:26 pm 
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MattWales wrote:
No thats great bud, thanks!
Likelyhood is I'd use it as at most a 3 day pack.


Thats the reason I ask - 30L is a bit too small for a 3-day pack, no?

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 Post subject: Re: Arcteryx LEAF 2013 line
PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:27 pm 
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3 days worth of (water,) food, clothing and shelter? How big is your sleepingbag, do you have a tent? What season?

Anyway, if you are able to put your sleepingbag and pad on the outside, you might manage to cram it all in.

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