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 Post subject: Re: CANSOFCOM
PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:24 pm 
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Oh yeah. This video exudes ninjaness. I see those gentlemen also train with live people and live ammo.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:04 am 
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goosebumps...cansofcom rocks! Maybe it is a trailer for Canadian Act of Valor? :P

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 7:20 am 
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Awesome Video , having the pleasure of working with these guys (CANSOFCOM) I have nothing but praise and respect for them in the manner in which they conduct business. The new Regiment has forged forward and its good to see given the time frame since formation. Well done !!!


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 9:14 am 
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 9:54 pm 
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I cannot even begin to explain how neat the video is: http://www.cansofcom.forces.gc.ca/video-eng.asp


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http://www.cansofcom-comfoscan.forces.g ... eo-eng.flv

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 10:05 pm 
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Awesome Video , having the pleasure of working with these guys (CANSOFCOM) I have nothing but praise and respect for them in the manner in which they conduct business. The new Regiment has forged forward and its good to see given the time frame since formation. Well done !!!


CSOR has definitely undergone one hell of a change from its stand up to what it is now, not to mention they look a lot 'kewler'.

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 12:28 am 
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"undergone one hell of a change from its stand up to what it is now"

Mate, I know almost nothing about CANSOFCOM. I curious what do you mean, please explain.

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 1:07 am 
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Well originally they were stood up to reduce the amount of tasking on JTF-2 that was outside of their primary directives, and to support JTF-2. Now they do a lot of their own stuff to speak, they still have a supporting role in the JTF-2 led task force (This is open source: In Yellow) other then that I don't know if anything else I can say is OpSec or just rumours.

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 3:28 am 
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Well originally they were stood up to reduce the amount of tasking on JTF-2 that was outside of their primary directives, and to support JTF-2. Now they do a lot of their own stuff to speak, they still have a supporting role in the JTF-2 led task force (This is open source: In Yellow) other then that I don't know if anything else I can say is OpSec or just rumours.


Heard quite a few rumours recently but won't go any further into that.


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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 4:05 am 
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So "WHY" comment then…. :roll: Seriously ? If is OPSEC then we shouldn't even be eluding too it. Bottom line is all Units have roles and tasks, any Government can and will employ them as required for national interests. CSOR specifically has grown exponentially since formation in 2006 and it is a credit to the Canadian Military. They put a lot of thought into the formation of not only the new Regiment but also the Command I)


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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 7:24 pm 
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Awesome video. Sadly (as an enthusiast) we don't see or hear much about them, but as their mission goes, it's a good thing.

I'd just wish the 427 SOAS could get better birds.. They are doing a hellova job with their Griffons, but sadly they do have their limits.

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Heard quite a few rumours recently but won't go any further into that.

I hate teases :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 10:47 pm 
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I've heard the same thing regarding other SOA units. Just because the 160th has all these awsome platforms does not mean others do less. Question is, does the 427th really need aditional aerial platforms? Shoving an aviation unit full of MH-6M Little Birds does not make 'em Special Operations Aviation. In the long run, they will need platforms that can be provide for them selfs. Then again, in areas such as Afghanistan a solid CH-47 is worth gold. It all depends where Canadian Special Operations Forces see them selfs in the future. After Afghanistan becomes a done deal, where will they be needed next?


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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 12:58 am 
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Took some stills:
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 4:39 am 
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CSOR during the Jordanian competition:
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:19 am 
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Put shortly...

Griffons are unarmored, unarmed (besides side-mounted guns, which were retrofitted following feedback from Afghanistan) and don't fare well with the dirt and heat (again, they were modified following their initial deployment to Afghanistan). They are effective as support helicopters, but as combat/special operations deployment platforms... they hold their own, but have their limits. our new Chinooks do great what they were designed for.

As far as fixed-wings goes, the CC130J recently acquired, while more sophisticated, are also less rugged than the Hotels. They don't have navigators which, while it might makes things easier for boring freight missions or mid/high altitude drops, sucks for low-altitude tasks like SAR... or special operations. Which is why end-users are pushing for new planes, more specifically the C-27J (as Hotels, while more appropriate than Juliets for their ops, are getting old and need lots of maintenance for every flight hour). But paper-pushers (especially the government... while the Conservative govt is more supportive of the armed forces than past Liberals, they also are cutting expenses where they can, which includes equipement purchases.) Reviving & upgrading the Buffalo is also an option which many are pushing for as it'd be a Canadian-made option... but to be honest, it's an inferior aircraft though politicians might prefer it.

Note that many of the links below specifically mention SAR (possibly one of the most if not THE most active taskings for CF aircraft), but lots of it also applies to CSAR and SO.

Some reading on rotary-wings:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/200 ... istan.html
http://www.casr.ca/mp-csar-sof-dorschner.htm
http://www.casr.ca/mp-arctic-rw-sar-daly.htm
http://o.canada.com/2013/01/30/errors-l ... sh-report/
http://www.casr.ca/bg-ccg-helicopter-project-aw109.htm
http://www.casr.ca/bg-ccg-helicopter-project-b412.htm

Fixed wing support platforms:
http://www.casr.ca/mp-army-aviation-coin.htm

Fixed wing transport/insertion:
http://www.casr.ca/mp-fwsar-arctic-utility.htm
http://www.casr.ca/ft-fwsar-dorschner.htm
http://www.casr.ca/ft-fwsar-and-used-c27js.htm

Not an expert though so feel free to do your own readings... but that gives you an overview of the situation.

Also some oldschool:
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