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 Post subject: Re: crye airframe vs opscore
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:58 am 
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 Post subject: Re: crye airframe vs opscore
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:33 pm 
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Both helmets seem to be pretty good.
But is it not a problem that the area of ears is unprotected?
(I know that there are "ears" for the airframe" )
but it looks like, that the most people dont use them

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 Post subject: Re: crye airframe vs opscore
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:01 pm 
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It's because most people fell more need of sound protections and comms (like Sordins and Comtacs) over simple ballistic protection over that small amount of area.


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 Post subject: Re: crye airframe vs opscore
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:15 pm 
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When I wear a tc2000 e.g. and my ears are covered I have no spatial hearing. I use invisio M3s as headset. That's why I like the tc2002 / 2001, Airframe and FAST cut more...

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 Post subject: Re: crye airframe vs opscore
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:04 pm 
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The gain in weight and "momentum" when moving your head is welcome as well.

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 Post subject: Re: crye airframe vs opscore
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:55 pm 
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Well remember there are also very light low cut helmets (like the MICH in level of head coverage) that do weigh less (size dependent obviously) than the Crye Airframe or Ops-Core line of ballistic helmets, for example: the Rabintex Attack helmet shells (probably the only helmets that are lighter that offer full head coverage though).

But I think it comes down to preference, type of communications set up you are running and the level of head protection you're (chain of command) willing to have.

So what does this mean for the end user of these helmets? Either they stick with what they're issued even if its blatantly uncomfortable though generally the system issued is at a mid point (I'd say thats a majority of service members), are close enough to the source to trial the helmet(s) without purchase and decide to use what they like if they can afford and is accepted by the CoC (thats a big if), lastly you're command already issues the helmet that is comfortable to the end user. Because honestly casting our opinions on headware doesn't help anyone with selection of headware because everyone's skull and facial tissue has different measurements, its pretty much as futile as suggesting a type of boot; suggest a brand but a model? Hell no its all trial and error.

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 Post subject: Re: crye airframe vs opscore
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:39 pm 
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Guys, does somebody know where to buy the airframe ears ( I live outside US) ?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:10 am 
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http://cryeprecision.com/international.aspx


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 Post subject: Re: crye airframe vs opscore
PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:28 pm 
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tangman wrote:
http://cryeprecision.com/international.aspx

my country is not writen there
I live in Israel

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 6:37 pm 
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Then contact any of the Companies listed there and see if they will ship. Unless you can fill in all the necessary paperwork for ITAR, it's not coming from CONUS.


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 Post subject: Re: crye airframe vs opscore
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:22 am 
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Is the ops core helmet more expensive than the airframe?
If yes, why the most units prefer him to airframe?
As I see, he airframe is more comfortable and more modular

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:57 am 
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The base price for the airframe is lower, but as soon as you put rails and an NVG mount on it, it's past the FAST Ballistic in cost.
I don't really see how the airframe would be more customizable. Furthermore, it would seem that Ops-Core have higher production capabilities and thus more easily win military contracts.

As much as I love the airframe, I don't get why an entire military should issue them over the cheaper, yet as functional FAST Ballistic.

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 Post subject: Re: crye airframe vs opscore
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:46 am 
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Pkekyo wrote:
The base price for the airframe is lower, but as soon as you put rails and an NVG mount on it, it's past the FAST Ballistic in cost.
I don't really see how the airframe would be more customizable. Furthermore, it would seem that Ops-Core have higher production capabilities and thus more easily win military contracts.

As much as I love the airframe, I don't get why an entire military should issue them over the cheaper, yet as functional FAST Ballistic.


well the price of an airframe is 844+ 44 for the rails
the price of ops core is 935
NVG mount is the same for both helmets(?)

but you probably right with the production capabilities

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 Post subject: Re: crye airframe vs opscore
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:50 am 
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desert_eagle wrote:
Is the ops core helmet more expensive than the airframe?
If yes, why the most units prefer him to airframe?
As I see, he airframe is more comfortable and more modular


Cost comes out close to each other in the end once you start adding the rails, shroud, covers.

Biggest selling point is the air vent in my opinion.

Airframe is on the same level of modularity as the Ops-Core in my opinion. Actually Ops-Core might even have the higher foothold because they have the moto-mandible, RACS, and rails on the bottom portion of their ARC rail, something the Cryes do not have. More opportunities for accessories with the Ops-Core as well.


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 Post subject: Re: crye airframe vs opscore
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:04 pm 
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patriot_man wrote:
desert_eagle wrote:
and rails on the bottom portion of their ARC rail, something the Cryes do not have. More opportunities for accessories with the Ops-Core as well.

This

It was actually a deliberate, and smart, move from Ops-core to licence only the top rail.
Crye has been working on a specific interface on the lower part of the rail to make up for the lack of interfacel, but I don't know if they are finaly selling it (you can see that V2.0 rail in the monocle video).
That being said, I'm still liking the AF much more than FASTs for comfort, and that's gonna stay the same at least as long as I haven't tried the luxury padding system from Ops-Core.

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