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 Post subject: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:39 pm 
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https://www.ownthenight.com/new-product ... C228Ed1Dt8

Just saw it.
Looks interesting.
The question us is it as good as the airframe and ops core fast

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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:34 pm 
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I would say so. We got them in and they are lighter than any other ballistic helmet out there. But, that comes at the price of coverage. But damn is it comfy. I will say the only thing that I don't like is the lack of ARC rail. That system has become the defacto standard in the industry.

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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:25 am 
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tnvc_clasky wrote:
I would say so. We got them in and they are lighter than any other ballistic helmet out there. But, that comes at the price of coverage. But damn is it comfy. I will say the only thing that I don't like is the lack of ARC rail. That system has become the defacto standard in the industry.

http://tnvc.com/shop/team-wendy-exfil-ballistic-helmet/


Would you prefer them to an Airframe or Ops Core?
I think the airframe has the best weight to coverage ratio

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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:43 am 
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I've had one for about three weeks now.
Like Clasky said, it is really comfy, way more so than a FAST.
I too wish they were able to get ARC rails on them, but then again, it is not that hard to get pretty much the same set-up than any high speed FAST or AF with their proprietary comtac adaptors and picatinny rails.
The one thing that is missing in my opinion is the up-armoring feature, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was around the corner...
The good thing it has over Crye's AF is that it is readily tested against NIJ IIIA type of threats, whereas Crye has only been offering frag protection up until very recently.

Having used all three brands, I'd say that the AF is still winning because of form factor, comfort and ARC rails. It gets even better if it's the IIIA version (although heavier) and if you add the cam-fit harness.
A close second (and probably a wee bit more affordable with the same features) is the Exfil.
FAST is gets third place out of the box.
That said, if you start considering all the accessories and armor upgrades available, I'd say that ops-core is well ahead. Now if they could finally do something about their head crushing pads...

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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 12:58 pm 
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I didnt knew that the exfil have superior ballistic protection than fast and airframe.
DO youm ena with the better ballistic version of airframe, the ATX version? Wgy it cost lthan less? :?

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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 2:30 pm 
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It's not superior. It could be, and as a matter of fact it appears to have a higher V50 (Frag, 17gr) than the competition, but we'd need some independant ballistic testing datas including V50 and BFD measurements on both fragments and bullets to know that for sure.

What I'm saying is that the Exfil is more interesting to my eyes because they are only making one helmet (at least so far), covering both fragments and bullets threats, whereas Crye and Ops-core offer several different helmet versions that don't necessarly overlap in the same way on the threat matrix.
Don't get me wrong, it's convenient to have more choices when you know exactly the type of threat you'll be facing, but in my world that doesn't really happen, so I'd rather have a more global protection even if that means carrying a few more grams in the process.

As for why the ATX is cheaper, it's most probably because of material selection. NIJ IIIA level helmets are usualy made of some type of aramid, which is not that expensive and pretty easy to assemble. However it is heavier.
On the other hand, lightweight, frag only helmets are usualy made of some sort of composite/hybrid material, which is more expensive to source.
It's the usual ballistic protection "three features" dilemma: lightweight, affordable, protective (coverage and/or impact mitigation). You can have any two of those three features, but not the three of them at the same time.

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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:01 pm 
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Do you think any of the tier 1 units might adopt it as their helmet? Or any other army unit?

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Some LEO units in the province of Quebec (Canada) have purchased them. I have yet to see pictures, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 4:47 pm 
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The Exfil Ballistic is miles ahead of the Ops Core.
Haven't held an Airframe in real life, so cannot compare.

The Exfil is very light, extremely comfortable and stable.

I do not think the lack of an ARC rail is an issue, seeing as aftermarket support will come with accessories that works well with Team Wendy's own rail.

The same for additional features; this is a brand new helmet, and they will continue to develop the system.


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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:39 pm 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueW7m5-MPrE

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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
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The shape is very similar to IBH I)


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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
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does somebody knows if any units using this helmet? or if there are pictures of use of the helmet in the field?

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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:57 pm 
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The EXFIL Ballistic is a great helmet - no doubt. We sell them and have a lot of happy customers. I love the suspension system and chinstrap. However, a lot of military units are sticking with Ops-Core and Crye for full helmet systems because of the rails. This is actually a rather notable issue.

The Team Wendy T-Slot rails are very capable, but do not feature any sort of break-away function. This is a problem with airborne operations where risers can snag your side-mounted accessories. The ARC Rails are designed to release accessories in this instance. This is a safety issue for the jumper who can suffer a major neck injury.

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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
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Do you know if TW plans to license or adopt a similar rail system?


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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:21 pm 
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I'd wager no, seeing as if they had a shred of common sense, they would've licensed the ARC rail system from Ops-Core since it's essentially THE standard of helmet mounted accessories all ready.

The proprietary rail system on it's own is a major downside for the EXFIL line of helmets, and in my opinion major enough to kill off any incentive to buy one.

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