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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:51 pm 
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TW showed us some new T-Slot rail accessories at SHOT Show in January. These looked really promising because they featured a much quicker attachment method and break-away capability under specific force. I hope to see more of that since the rail is really the only major drawback to the helmet. The shell offers less coverage, but is still on par with a high cut MICH, so it's not too bad.

Regardless of the new accessories, I think USASOC, SOCOM, JSOC, and MARSOC are pretty entrenched in the ARC system. I do see a big market for the TW Ballistic in LE work. However, there is a big push for scale-able up-armor systems for SWAT these days. I'd like to see TW come out with some of these components.

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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:58 pm 
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Roger, thanks. Looking forward to that. I've got a FAST, and I don't plan on swapping anytime soon. I noticed that a quick glance shows that almost all helmet accessories follow the FAST pattern. Unlike the MLOK/Keymod options I think the TW design is a little late to the game for adoption.


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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:23 am 
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Thanks for this honest opinion. Sounds like it should be suitable for LEO (or SAR; I was personally looking at their SAR variant for my needs).

At first sight he rail was a drawback simply for cross-compatibility but that is definitely a major issue for jumpers. It also looks like the rail has a thicker profile, or is that just me?
That's from an end-user point of view, but for manufacturers, having to release a new attachment method is certainly a pain and I doubt that, considering how late they came to the game, it'll get as many products.

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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:25 pm 
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I totally agree with Clasky about TW's biggest potential lying with the LE market.
That being said I have mixed feelings with the rail compatibility issue.
What I'm seeing them used for are, aside from armor components, almost exclusively peltor earpro adapters (which TW offers) and personal lighting systems. Princeton is already working on dedicated mounts for TW, which in my opinion makes those two issues moot points (considering Peltor and Princeton are pretty much the only relevant players in that area, with surefire and petzl making some semi retarded design adaptations for arc rails, and Sordin still being a no show for some reason).

I for one would have preferred them going the arc way too, but I do think they have a solid and comprehensive business model.
They also have been IMO the fastest newcomer to that market, arguably because they are the latest to the game, but still they have a huge innovation capability, unlike Ops Core which look like they have been resting on their big contracts laurels in the more recent years (thank you gentex).
As for the scalable armor options, I understand this is part of the "possibles" in their developments, keep fingers crossed!

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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:31 pm 
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Princeton Tec is going to be shipping all of their new production runs of Charge and Charge Pro lights with a new TW T-Slot adapter. So, 3rd party mfgr's are starting to adapt to the design.

The main issue TW ran into was that Ops-Core has the rail market pretty buttoned up. When they originally designed the FAST ARC and ACH-ARC, they patented not only the rail design profile, but the attachment method to the helmet as well. That is the killer right there and a brilliant move on OC's part. This means that nobody else can design a rail system for a helmet that attaches at the chinstrap bolt-on points (without licensing the design from Ops-Core).

This has been a major thorn in other manufacturer's sides since there are only so many ways to attach a rail system. The Op-Core way is the best since it does not require any extra holes to be drilled in the helmet shell (weakening the structural and ballistic integrity). It has led to the some lawsuits for patent infringement, but Ops-Core won since they retain the intellectual property.

My company sells Ops-Core, Crye Precision, Team Wendy, Revision, and Rabintex helmets. I think they all have their benefits and detractors. I try to provide my clients with all the information as well as my opinions (personally, I think the Ops-Core design with the LUX liner is the most comfortable helmet I've every worn or been issued). But, there is no perfect solution. Yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:07 am 
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Clasky, a bit off topic but have you had a chance to check out the new Armor Source LW helmets or the Ceradyne Bump Ballistic / Defender Ultra?

Their advertised weight for both helmets are SUPER light and hovering around 1.5 to 1.8 lbs for a high cut. Really want the Ceradyne one but I haven't heard a single peep about availability and I suspect it'll be government or department purchase anyways.

Do you think this technology will migrate over to the Ops-Core line? Doesn't Ops-Core use Ceradyne seamless tech already?


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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:36 pm 
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I actually have not had a chance to see the Ceredyne helmets.

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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:02 am 
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One last question.

Did Ops-Core stop making OCC liner ACH retrofit kits in size XL?

Also do they plan to make a lux liner retrofit for the ACH?


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 Post subject: Re: Team Wendy EXFIL Ballistic Helmet
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:48 pm 
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patriot_man wrote:
One last question.

Did Ops-Core stop making OCC liner ACH retrofit kits in size XL?

Also do they plan to make a lux liner retrofit for the ACH?


XXL OCC's are special order only. LUX liner upgrades for the ACH are in production, but not available until later this year. I've got one in my possession, so yes; it is a real thing.

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